Posts by Lee Elder

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How this Jehovah’s Witness feels about the Australian Royal Commission

by Simple Minds in

i know the arc is old news i know i am preaching to the converted but i had to express how i feel because most of my jw friends and family dont want to hear .

so this is how i feel.

i have faithfully served as a jehovahs witness for over 25 years..

Lee Elder

My belief is that the organization could really care less about how you feel. They are God's channel and you are a sheep. Follow and do what you are told. Remain silent - if something is wrong, eventually Jehovah will fix it. Open your mouth and cause divisions and they will show you the door. That has been my experience and observation. There is plenty of distressing stuff going on in the WTS. The child abuse issue is just a part of the problem.

For what its worth, I totally related to what you are feeling. When I finally realized that they were responsible for thousands of needless deaths over the blood issue it was simply demoralizing for me.

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"Apostates " how honest are we?

by closed in

as i mentioned in another post i used to serve as an elder for 2 decades.

i was involved in a number of jc.

some i dealt with are good friends now.

Lee Elder

Hard for me to lump all ex JWs together. It is a spectrum with as many good folks and crazy folks as you find in the WTS.

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Do JW's still go door-to-door?

by Dark Knight in

with the rise of the new literature cart method of preaching, i'm curious as to how the traditional jw preaching work is organized.

the other reason i ask this is that i hardly see jw's door-knocking anymore.are they still going door-to-door and tracking how regularly their territory is covered?

are they still using territory maps and keeping track of do-not-calls, ethnic/deaf houses etc?i'm also curious as to how the literature cart ministry is organized.

Lee Elder

I suspect the work has slowed down quite a bit. I don't think I've had them at my door or in my neighborhood for at least three years. It is a blessing from Jehovah!

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If YOU had to make the decision, would you respect a JW relatives wish to refuse a blood transfusion?

by nicolaou in

a few years after i quit the meetings my mum needed her medical directive signed and witnessed and she asked if i'd do it.

i was surprised to say the least!.

i think she was just angling to include me and maybe find some lever to get me involved again.

Lee Elder

Its a good topic for discussion. Situations are going to vary, and I wouldn't presume to tell others what to do. For myself, I would try not to be put in that situation if possible. Unfortunately, I find myself in that situation with my elderly JW father. I've had several discussions with him about this and he is pretty confused by all of the changes. He understands that not all JWs agree that this is a scriptural requirement. He knows there are problems with the doctrine, and actually told my adult son to have a transfusion that was needed. I am not quite sure how this would go down if it comes up. One factor is that he is already in his late eighties, so I am not going to press. None of us are going to live forever (some of us just haven't figured that out yet).

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Quite the story

by Lee Elder in

nancy tells her story about the devastating effect of the watchtower's policies on her family.. http://www.4jehovah.org/nancy-ex-jehovahs-witness/.

Lee Elder

Nancy tells her story about the devastating effect of the Watchtower's policies on her family.

http://www.4jehovah.org/nancy-ex-jehovahs-witness/

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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

by cofty in

... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

they take pride in obedience.

Lee Elder

Blood and the Mosaic Law.

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Should doctors tell JW patients that there is disagreement about Watchtower's blood policy.

by Lee Elder in

this has been a controversial issue among doctors and medical ethicists.

i think it basically comes down to the fact that physicians have a responsibility to establish the presence of informed consent.

is it really possible for a person to give informed consent if they are not accurately informed?.

Lee Elder

Girl next door - yes, thank you.

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Should doctors tell JW patients that there is disagreement about Watchtower's blood policy.

by Lee Elder in

this has been a controversial issue among doctors and medical ethicists.

i think it basically comes down to the fact that physicians have a responsibility to establish the presence of informed consent.

is it really possible for a person to give informed consent if they are not accurately informed?.

Lee Elder

Link disappeared here it is:

http://ajwrb.org/blood-transfusions-what-are-the-risks

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Should doctors tell JW patients that there is disagreement about Watchtower's blood policy.

by Lee Elder in

this has been a controversial issue among doctors and medical ethicists.

i think it basically comes down to the fact that physicians have a responsibility to establish the presence of informed consent.

is it really possible for a person to give informed consent if they are not accurately informed?.

Lee Elder

You are more likely to be struck by lightening or die of a bad reaction to an antibiotic than you are to die from a blood transfusion. WT implanted phobias and misinformation on blood persist in the EX JW community, I see it all of the time. Get the facts.

Blood Transfusions - What are the risks?

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Should doctors tell JW patients that there is disagreement about Watchtower's blood policy.

by Lee Elder in

this has been a controversial issue among doctors and medical ethicists.

i think it basically comes down to the fact that physicians have a responsibility to establish the presence of informed consent.

is it really possible for a person to give informed consent if they are not accurately informed?.

Lee Elder

Fisherman: Your comments tap into the commonly held belief among JWs that blood is contaminated and unclean. Same "purity" notions drove the vaccine and organ transplant bans. Blood is a liquid tissue transplant and carries well known risks just like other tissue or organ transplants. In all cases, these are only considered in serious, life threatening circumstances. Watchtower implanted phobias and notions of uncleanness or contamination are without scriptural merit, and primarily serve as control mechanisms to generate revulsion and compliance imo.